Do you think Germans find it difficult to talk about race?

I do, it’s a sensitive point, I think it’s difficult, I don’t think a lot of work has happened in the past seventy years since those events, you know, holocaust and I think often when people hear race they immediately associate the word racist and racist is a big buzzword, the R word. I don’t really think there’s been a lot of healing around behaviours of the past, there’s been significant putting stuff under the rug and different climates have paved the way for things to come out of the rug.

With the history of the Holocaust and before and when they went down into Togo and Namibia they were working on this whole idea of eugenics and race was very much there and it’s part of the culture and it hasn’t really been taught but some people, many people are aware of it and they kind of look away and then it’s thrown up in their face, especially when you think of all the different migrations coming in and the anti-discrimination themes. They’re sensitive, I don’t think they’re comfortable with it, and I don’t want to globalise and generalise every German because I think there are genuine allies.

There are more people talking about racism, but as I said before it’s an uncomfortable buzzword, the fact that people have recognised and spoken about racism, I guess one could say that’s a direction, where it’s problematic is that by calling somebody racist or calling people out on the racism in the job is insufficient, the work that has to happen before that is for people to recognise where the ignorance is. It’s not enough to call anyone out on their racist behaviour because people are very resistant and they block, and I think we’re at a place of people being blocked and there is a lot of outrage because of the R word.


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